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Message 182 - Posted: 5 Jan 2026, 6:25:57 UTC

It's not working at all.
The project is over-credited.
Where is the problem coming from?
https://spaciousathome.eu/spaciousathome/top_users.php
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Message 183 - Posted: 5 Jan 2026, 10:40:13 UTC

Hi,

we have users in our team (Planet 3Dnow) with one or two hosts and millions of credits today.
What is going on?

Regards Jörg
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Message 184 - Posted: 5 Jan 2026, 11:36:07 UTC - in response to Message 183.  

In reply to Stony666's message of 5 Jan 2026:
Hi,

we have users in our team (Planet 3Dnow) with one or two hosts and millions of credits today.
What is going on?

Regards Jörg

In 12 hours of crunch time, I earned 34 million credits.
That's not normal.
How is that possible?
Since the beginning of this project, there has been a problem with credits.
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Message 185 - Posted: 5 Jan 2026, 12:17:36 UTC - in response to Message 183.  

Same here in our team (SETI.Germany).
Millions are added to the total credit by the hour.
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Message 186 - Posted: 5 Jan 2026, 18:44:49 UTC

Hopefully it can be fixed, individual tasks info still looks correct. Somewhere credit recently got multiplied by 100 in the internal database calculations.
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Message 187 - Posted: 5 Jan 2026, 23:43:57 UTC

2nd instance of this happening at this project but MUCH higher magnitude this time:
https://spaciousathome.eu/spaciousathome/forum_thread.php?id=17#80
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Message 188 - Posted: 6 Jan 2026, 9:07:02 UTC - in response to Message 187.  

In reply to mmonnin's message of 5 Jan 2026:
2nd instance of this happening at this project but MUCH higher magnitude this time:
https://spaciousathome.eu/spaciousathome/forum_thread.php?id=17#80

Absolutely.
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Message 194 - Posted: 8 Jan 2026, 21:16:35 UTC

Not seeing this issue on any of my hosts. All look normal for awarded credits and totals. Where do I sign up to get the "extra" credits. : -}
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Message 195 - Posted: 9 Jan 2026, 1:41:09 UTC

I do not see any over credit issues.

All mine give 200 credits and that is all.

Where is the over credit applied as it is not to my work units.

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Message 196 - Posted: 9 Jan 2026, 2:02:53 UTC - in response to Message 195.  
Last modified: 9 Jan 2026, 2:12:27 UTC

In reply to Conan's message of 9 Jan 2026:
I do not see any over credit issues.

All mine give 200 credits and that is all.

Where is the over credit applied as it is not to my work units.

Conan


1 - Its over. New additional credits are back to normal. If you didn't participate from ~Jan 4th to 7th, this doesn't apply.

2 - No one ever said each task is worth more than 200. Never once.

3 - But if you were to add up credit from all the tasks, it doesn't add up to the credit for a host/user. Credit for a given task is being added multiple times to a host/user.
Example. A host has completed 100 tasks x 200 per task should be 20,000 credit but the host and user are given 50,000. All tasks are still visible from Day 1 of the project.

Actual example: The top computer of all computers at Spacious:
State: All (5793) · In progress (320) · Validation pending (246) · Validation inconclusive (0) · Valid (5120) · Invalid (0) · Error (107)

5120 x 200 should equal 1,024,000 BUT has a total of 663,785,600 credit. 663x more than it should have received. Pretty messed up.

Data taken at the time of the post.
Host ID: 191
Details | Tasks 1 Anonymous 56,915,201.86 663,785,600 7.23.1
https://spaciousathome.eu/spaciousathome/results.php?hostid=191
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Message 197 - Posted: 9 Jan 2026, 5:36:56 UTC

Thanks mmonnin for the update.

I guess I missed out on that little bonus then.

I have increased my resource share here to try and pull back some of the 50 ranking places I lost since November, due to this issue.

Plus GAIA seems to have gone into hiatus so I will concentrate a bit more here

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Message 198 - Posted: 9 Jan 2026, 9:19:25 UTC

Look up the grant at the bottom of this page. This guy is getting over 500 000 euro per year to run a BOINC server that costs maybe 100 per month. And he can't even respond to the forum or bother to fix scoring problems.

Here is a fun link, related to this project:
https://anti-fraud.ec.europa.eu/olaf-and-you/report-fraud_en
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Message 199 - Posted: 9 Jan 2026, 9:50:37 UTC

Yeah Spacious is basically the new Gaia. Find/Replace Gaia with Spacious and you have this. The exe is 75% the same, task name and app the same format, etc. Spacious funding started when Gaia ended. Increment Gaia IP by one and you have Spacious IP.
To smaller extent this happened already here and its happened at Gaia.
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Message 202 - Posted: 9 Jan 2026, 19:48:01 UTC - in response to Message 198.  
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In reply to 10esseetony's message of 9 Jan 2026:
Look up the grant at the bottom of this page. This guy is getting over 500 000 euro per year to run a BOINC server that costs maybe 100 per month. And he can't even respond to the forum or bother to fix scoring problems.

Here is a fun link, related to this project:
https://anti-fraud.ec.europa.eu/olaf-and-you/report-fraud_en


Is that the link you wanted to post?
Not seeing any grants related to Spacious.

They have 5 successful investigations posted here: https://anti-fraud.ec.europa.eu/investigations/success-stories_en

EDIT: Here is Spacious project and grant agreement web page: https://cordis.europa.eu/project/id/101135205
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Message 203 - Posted: 9 Jan 2026, 19:50:06 UTC
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My machines returned 4(four) WU's in 7 days and FDC shows:
1,954,200	1,954,200	192,281	72,378	1,954,200	

488,550 each.

Look at the credit for last 7 days at FDC: https://stats.free-dc.org/users/sat

Hell, my RAC is over 2million!
Thought FreeDC would kill those credits.
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Message 204 - Posted: 9 Jan 2026, 20:01:30 UTC - in response to Message 199.  
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In reply to mmonnin's message of 9 Jan 2026:
Yeah Spacious is basically the new Gaia. Find/Replace Gaia with Spacious and you have this. The exe is 75% the same, task name and app the same format, etc. Spacious funding started when Gaia ended. Increment Gaia IP by one and you have Spacious IP.
To smaller extent this happened already here and its happened at Gaia.


Gaia@home was supposedly crunching data for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_(spacecraft)

IDK what these WU's are doing.

EDIT: From the About "By integrating existing technologies into a unique Data Mining environment, " - BOINC is a "unique Data Mining environment"!

Google is $3 trillion valued data mining company...

We're humans facing down AI surgence.
Where's my HuaWei server's datamining money?!?!
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Message 205 - Posted: 9 Jan 2026, 20:50:33 UTC - in response to Message 203.  

In reply to marmot's message of 9 Jan 2026:
My machines returned 4(four) WU's in 7 days and FDC shows:
1,954,200	1,954,200	192,281	72,378	1,954,200	

488,550 each.

Look at the credit for last 7 days at FDC: https://stats.free-dc.org/users/sat

Hell, my RAC is over 2million!
Thought FreeDC would kill those credits.


But your account shows them as 200 each, correct?
Your PCs are hidden and no link to any task/host.
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Message 207 - Posted: 10 Jan 2026, 2:03:47 UTC

Seems like just another lazy Admin/Dev with no communication taking advantage of the BOINC volunteers. Glad I never started running this. BOINC Projects have really gone down the crapper in the past few years.
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Message 208 - Posted: 10 Jan 2026, 11:09:07 UTC - in response to Message 183.  

In reply to Stony666's message of 5 Jan 2026:
Hi,

we have users in our team (Planet 3Dnow) with one or two hosts and millions of credits today.
What is going on?

Regards Jörg

...same here with the Rechenkraft.net Team. I had a few hundred credits, now I have around 65 Million.

While the client, the Spacious@home website and BOINCstats show these 65 Mio credits, the Free-DC stats system doesn't - they show "just" around 5 Mio credits.
Not sure what is happening but on top of these irregular over credits the stats systems appear no longer consistent now which is very bad for the community.

Michael.
President of Rechenkraft.net - Germany's first and largest distributed computing organization. We run three DC projects on our own: RNA World, Yoyo@home and YAFU. A fourth is about to come...
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Message 209 - Posted: 10 Jan 2026, 18:17:56 UTC - in response to Message 208.  

Free-DC has a scrolling NEWS banner at the top, it says they have stopped updating SPACIOUS until they fix the scoring problem.
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